Not My Job
Not My Job
a sermon by Rev. J. Christy Ramsey
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Should the church be run like a business? People tell me that, throughout my career in the ministry in 40 years, and they come in, you know, church has to be run like a business. And they usually don’t know that I have a business administration degree from Grove City College with cum laude. So they think this is news to me, God bless ‘em.
And I was wondering, you know, when I’m in a more festive mood, with is almost always, I admit it is a problem, I ask them, well, if church is run like a business, what’s its product? I mean, what is it selling? I mean, that’s basic business that you know your product. What’s a product? You know, it gives them pause because, I mean, you all think of that, I ain’t going to put you on the spot because, you know, it’s like being in the front row at a comedy club, you know. You know you’re going to get picked on if there’s only, like, six of you. So don’t answer out. I’m not putting you on the spot.
But what would you say is the church’s business? What’s the product? What are we making? Oh, you’re going to – you’re going to – you’re, yeah, are we making Christians. That’s one of the A-plus answers. I would go A-plus on Christians, disciples, yeah. You know, others would say, you know, Laurie, others would say, well, you’re making worship services. You know, some people say that. Or, well, you’ve got to maintain the building, you know. Or some people would say, you know, you’re feeding the hungry, and Matthew 25, and the thirsty, and you’re doing that stuff. And I don’t know if you’d get agreement from everyone in a room about what the product is for the church, if it was run like a business.
And then it gets even more complicated because then you’ve got to say, okay, we’ve got a product, maybe. You would say, well, who’s our customer? What’s our target audience? Who are we working for? And I’m sure Laurie knows the answer. It’s always God. God’s always the correct answer in any children’s message or sermon.
Well, some people say God’s the customer. Okay. Other people would say, well, the people who pay the bills. You’ve got to keep them happy. You’ve got to keep the people happy who’re paying the bills or you don’t have a church. They’re the customer. Well, sure, God, but you know, oh, I’ve got to keep the money folks happy. Some people would say that. Some people say, well, it’s the church board. I mean, I don’t know if anybody would say that. Maybe one or two would say you’ve got to go with the – or maybe a couple would say the pastor has to be happy. That’s rare, but that could happen. I’m sure that’s happened. You know, who are you trying to please? Who are you working for? Who’s the customer? That’s a difficult one.
What if they went beyond that and said, okay, well, now, who owns the business? You know? Who? Is it a nonprofit? That’s problematic in a church, if you don’t have profits. If you do, well, what’s the business? What is that customer? Who owns it? Who is in charge of it? I mean, the Presbyterians have gone all the way up to the Supreme Court about who owns the church. And the Supreme Court, way back, oh, ‘70s, said, well, that PCUSA owns the church, but please make it more clear in your constitution. So we’ve been – we struggle with that in reality of who owns the business of the business? That’s important, too.
Well, you know, we shouldn’t be surprised that we have these questions and answers, and that we can’t get consensus and move around because even Jesus Christ had trouble, as we saw here, skipping over the dynamic of why you’re calling your mother “women,” that doesn’t sound good to us English-speaking ears that you go “woman.” But maybe it’s better in the Aramaic, I’m hoping. But Jesus had some troubles about his jobs and where he was doing and what he was doing it for. And, you know, a mother, the mother, you know, you don’t want your mother coming up to where you work and saying you’re not good at your job. I mean, that’s not good. That’s a bad day right there.
And, you know, and I don’t know, you know, can you imagine, I don’t know if we can be Jesus, but you’ve got these world-changing powers. You want to change the world for good. You want to help people, you want to get love all around, forgiveness and all that, and your mom wants you to solve the lack of wine at a three-day blowout party for people you don’t know. You know, Jesus Christ is fully human. I can see him being a little upset about that one. And not just, you know, hey, bring a bottle of wine. I mean, come on, it’s a party, bring the wine, what are you? You know, we’re talking multiple gallons of water turning to wine. We’re talking 20 to 30, what is it, six times 20, help me out. It’s over 100 gallons of wine. That’s a lot of wine. Of course, you know, Mary didn’t say, hey, go get 100 gallons.
Is that Jesus’ job? I don’t know. We struggle with that in the church. We’re struggling right now about what is the church’s job. I mean, folks will say let’s get politics out of the church, doo to doo to doo, you know, they want to say that. And you know what, I’ve noticed over the years, I mean, I’ve been around a little bit, politics just kept getting wider and wider and wider. You know? It used to be you could go buy craft supplies and not worry about politics. Now you’ve got to say, well, that one’s Republican and that one’s Democrat. Politics are just freaking everywhere. You know, and people wear them, you know, as part of their clothing, their politics. It is politics, politics, politics, politics everywhere. And it affects – and it’s not just politics.
Politics affects our lives, affects our health, affects our neighbors, affects ourselves, affects our family. You know, we say, well, it’s just politics. Well, no, man, it’s morality. It’s reality. It’s how we live. It’s how we structure society. It’s how we help one another. And even now we saw right now that a bishop, you know, we don’t have bishops. I don’t know. Sometimes that’s good; sometimes it’s bad. I don’t know. But we don’t have bishops. But that’s like, you know, up there, you know, big hat, in charge of church and stuff. And the bishop in the church, okay, that’s kind of a big thing, bishop in the church there actually makes it a cathedral when the bishop’s in the church. So the bishop in the cathedral saying a sermon, you know, the bishop in the cathedral in a sermon, you think that’s religious.
But some people say, oh, no, that’s politics. They can’t say this. They can’t say that. They’ve got this to do. They’ve got this to do. They’ve got to be in this box. They can’t be this. And oh, my gosh, I want to tell you about how the bishop in the cathedral preaching a sermon should be. I say get the politics out of the church. I say get the politics out of my life. My life belongs to Jesus Christ. Don’t be telling me I can’t follow Jesus Christ because you don’t like the politics. And don’t be coming into a cathedral and telling the bishop what he can say in their own pulpit. No.
We have trouble with jobs, with what is a job. I mean, even today we have trouble. You know, we say we might get upset about oh, my gosh, he should have said into this. Oh, my gosh, that’s not her job. Oh, she shouldn’t have made the wine. I mean, I’m sure that there were some people, well, Jesus, you know, you shouldn’t be making that much wine for drunk people. I mean, that is a reasonable criticism. I mean, Laurie can help me out here, but I’m thinking that’s enabling. I mean, that’s like master-class enabling right there. These drunk people need more wine. I mean, the steward flat-out said they were already drunk; you know? And why do drunk people need more wine, I don’t know. And people could criticize that, and I don’t even think that would be political.
But what is the job of the church? It’s something we’re going to be struggling with, I’ll tell you. We’re going to be struggling with that. And, you know, between ministers, and it’s especially a struggle because, you know, when you get in a ministry you can sort of say, good, the ministry will figure that out; you know. But when it’s just y’all, you know, you’ve got to figure out what is the church. Does the church do this? Does the church do that? Is that our job? Should we have services even though none of us lives in Lee Vining and we’ve got a lot of weather? Should we do that? I mean, it’d be really nice to have a minister decide that. But you don’t, so you’ve got to decide that, oh, you know. So what do you do?
Now, let me change gears a little bit. Palisades Fire. Have you heard of it? Palisades Fire. Now, I don’t know it you know about Palisades. Kind of a rich people place. But, you know, they have a severe homeless problem. They’ve got a lot of folks there that are hungry, don’t have housing, don’t have food. But the disaster is a disaster. I can’t imagine losing everything you own. I can’t imagine that. There’s been loss of life in the double digits, I think it’s up to 23 or so. Whole neighborhoods washed out. I mean, one of the Presbyterian execs lost her home down there, one of my friends, Wendy. I can’t imagine that. Everything, you look around, everything gone.
Another one of the ministers at the Palisades church, he had time to run down – you’ve got to read it. It’s on the PCUSA website, that Palisades fire, and was in the Presbyterian newsletter last week. But the pastor had enough time to run from the church down to the elementary school, grab his kids, because there was just cars everywhere, nothing was moving. There’s parents trying to get their kids. Had enough time to go down, get his kids, take them back out to the car, and flee the church. He didn’t take anything out of his office, and the church burned to the ground. I can’t imagine, what a tragedy. I want to say that, that it’s awful, it’s a tragedy, it’s a horrible thing. Suffering is real. And that’s one of the things the Church knows.
But I do want to tell you about jobs. When we’re talking about jobs, for at least a little while, for at least a couple weeks, there’s no hungry person in the Palisades. There’s no one hungry. There is no hunger because World Food Kitchen rolled in there with the food trucks. They rolled in, and they said anyone that’s hungry, come and eat. And we’re not checking your ID. We’re not seeing where you’re living. If you’re hungry, come and eat. We’ve got food. Come on down. And good food, too. And they got stores there that are open, and they’ve got brand new stuff for babies, and clothes, and if you lost something, come on in and don’t pay. There’s no charge. The donations are there, and they’re here for you to pick up, and God bless.
So we can do that. It takes a fire. It takes a disaster. It takes a horrible thing. Now, in Mary’s case the disaster was we ran out of wine at a social event. Okay, a little bit of a disaster. But the disaster that we have here that wiped out entire communities was enough to say, oh, yeah, we can feed every person and not charge them. We can clothe the naked and not charge them. We can do that. So when you say to me, oh, well, we can’t do it, you know, we’ve got to run like a business, and we’ve got to have profit and loss, so we’ve got to have [indiscernible] and negative, yeah, I’d say, well, yeah, I understand that, I mean, I did get an A in accounting. But for at least a couple weeks we did it. We could do it.
We could stop making billionaires and now trillionaires. We’ve got a couple people on the way to trillionaire, hoo-hoo. We could quit making them. And we can start making people that are fed and housed. We can do it. I don’t want a fire to wipe out a whole community to figure out how we can be Christians and make sure everyone’s got fed, clothing, and housing. I’d rather not. I’d rather we just decided, yeah, this is something we could do. And you know, it’s not just the church’s job. I mean, we say, well, the church ought to do that. They should have a lot of money and social things and all this. You know, Matthew 25, where it talks about the naked, clothing the naked and feeding the hungry and visiting the imprisoned and all the things that folks say, oh, I don’t know if we can afford all that.
It doesn’t say the church is going to be judged by that. It doesn’t say that individuals are going to be judged by that. We would like it to, oh, my gosh, that’d be so much easier. You know, oh, I’ve done good. I’m okay. I give things. I’m helpful. No. It says the nations will be judged. The nations of the world line up and are judged. Our Bible says, our Savior says, our gospel good news says right there in black-and-white, that the nations will be judged by how they take care of one another. So if you take comfort like I do, well, I’m a good person, I don’t hurt anybody, I’m nice, uh-oh. The nations are judged by that.
Well, that’s pretty heavy, Christy. My gosh. No wonder they only let you in once a month. Hey, let’s talk about the servants. Did you notice the servants? It’s hard. They don’t have any speaking parts. I mean, that is just plain unfair right there. Because you look at the Scripture, the servants are doing all the work. They’re going, they get ordered over here, I mean, there’s this Mary person. Who’s she? She’s not part of the household. Mary has to go over here, and he goes, talk to the stranger; you know?
And here’s the thing, you know, if I’m a servant, you know, and I’m thinking this, I’m not saying it out loud because servant, you know. But I’m thinking, you know, we’d have the wine if this guy didn’t bring all his big burly Galilean fishermen to drink all the wine. You know, I’m thinking that was an issue. I don’t think they planned for that. You know, his whole entourage comes, I mean, I’m thinking, those are some wine drinkers there, buddy. You know? And so makes sense to talk to this guy, do what this guy says. And they’re saying, oh, okay, I guess we’re servants. I guess we do that.
And he goes, go fill up those big old honkin’ jars. I mean, you know, it’s like 55-gallon drums, if you can imagine. Not quite that big, but, you know, roll them around and fill them up with water. I mean, who knows where that water is? Could have been, you know, a couple blocks away; you know? Lot of work there. They do all that. And they’re thinking, this guy’s nuts. Why is he giving water? We’re out of wine. We should be going around and getting some wine, and now he’s having us do this busywork and then go do that. And then they go, they bring that. And then Jesus says, “Go take the water to the chief steward to inspect for wine.” They go, what craziness is this? They’re going to yell at us. This is ridiculous. Why are we bothering the stewards? I don’t want to get involved.
And the guy, the steward said, you know, this is really good wine. And, you know, the servants are going, “Crazy white people,” you know. What? What? We put that in there. It’s water. We know. And they go, oh, yes, it’s great wine. And they tell one another, you know, should we say something? Should we tell them? No, we shouldn’t say anything. I don’t want to say anything. We’ll get along just fine. And then says the disciples believe. I think the servants just thought he was crazy, crazy folks. But, you know, where are the servants? You know? You know, he says, go do whatever Christ told you to do. Even though it’s crazy. Even though it can’t possibly work. Even though we know better. Even though we know it’s going to fail terribly. Go ahead and do it anyway. Go ahead and do it anyway.
What if Jesus says go over to Palisades and feed all the hungry over there? Oh, that’s not going to work. I can’t possibly do that. That’s ridiculous. Go do it anyway. That’s where we’re at. You know, we’re not around, sitting around saying, oh, let me think about what Jesus should be doing, what the job of the church is, and where are we going, and what’s our profit and loss, and what’s our five-year plan? What’s our objectives, you know, specific measurable attainable and time-related. What should we do? It’s to follow Jesus and do whatever he tells you. That’s our job. That’s our job. If we do that, Jesus will be revealed, and people will believe. Amen.